[openrailwaymap] Render changes suggestion

[Peter Reinhart]

Hi Arlindo,

it is great to see the growing international OpenRailwayMap community!

There are certainly quite some tagging issues unresolved in the fields 
you mentioned. There is way room for improvement on the entire tram 
tagging scheme. A key issue that goes along with that is the handling os 
disused tram/narrow_gauge... tracks in general.

We are going to have a get-together of ORM mappers in Cologne in mid 
June where we will discuss about these matters and hopefully find a good 
solution for these and many further issues.

The current Mapnik background comes from the old Wikipedia toolserver 
and is indeed quite a few months old. If I remember correctly, the 
backgroudn will be switch to the new Wikipedia toolserver in time which 
will provide regular tile updates again.

All the best
Peter


On 25.06.2014 15:33, Arlindo Pereira wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the current rendering is awesome, but I'd like to make some suggestions to
> make it even better.
>
> I'm currently very interested in mapping railways, but specially the
> disused/abandoned/razed ones. OpenRailwayMap already does that in a
> beautiful way.
>
> My suggestions are:
>
> 1) Render differently disused/abandoned/razed *tram* tracks from regular
> train tracks. I like the brown color (it remembers me a rusty rail :)). I
> suggest a slightly thinner line.
>
> I plan to digitalize all the tram lines that Rio de Janeiro used to have.
> You may know from nowadays the tram line that goes over the Arcos da Lapa
> aqueduct (this:
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z8aaLD7wg24/TkQ8cXLRSmI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/1aO3Bb6YFwU/s1600/100_1566.JPG
> ), (which shamefully is deactivated after a nasty accident in 2011), but
> Rio used to have until the 1960s a network of 400+km of trams, and it would
> be great to see them rendered. Anyway, I digress. :P
>
> Example: This abandoned track running from Catete, Laranjeiras and Cosme
> Velho neighborhoods:
> http://www.openrailwaymap.org/?lang=en&lat=-22.934266680333835&lon=-43.18453073501587&zoom=15&style=standard
>
>
> 2) Render disused/abandoned/razed stations and halts. OpenStreetMap used to
> render disused stations in the "good ol' days" of Mapnik, before migrating
> to openstreetmap-carto (which is great! but unfortunately have this problem
> regarding stations). Disused stations used to be render in the same size as
> halts, but in gray. Nowadays they render normally on OSM which is very
> confusing... and on ORM they are not rendered at all (AFAICS).
>
> At least, the B&W background image used on ORM seems to be generated by the
> old Mapnik, without using openstreetmap-carto, because the disused stations
> are rendered as I remember they were in OSM back ago. Anyway, my suggestion
> is to them be rendered like stations, but in brown (like
> disused/abandoned/razed lines) and perhaps in a smaller font.
>
> Example: all the stations north of those main passager lines, such as (west
> to east): Francisco Sá, Praia Formosa, Barão de Mauá, Praia Formosa
> (again), Villa Guarany, Praia Formosa, Marítima
> http://www.openrailwaymap.org/?lang=en&lat=-22.904028215313716&lon=-43.20894956588745&zoom=15&style=standard
>
>
> What's your opinion?
>
> Cheers,
> Arlindo