[openrailwaymap] [Talk-transit] Tag railway=station on ways and Wiki

[Joachim]

Three additional remarks:
* There is an explanation about only nodes on the wiki, did you miss
it? (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation): If
you want to map the station as an area, please consider that different
people describe the station area differently. While passengers only
have the area around the station building and the platforms in mind,
railway staff and railway enthusiasts think of the whole railway area
which begins at the entry signal at one side and ends at the entry
signals at the other side. Therefore to avoid tagging disputes and
editwars railway stations should only be mapped as nodes.
* I made an own section about "Distinction Between Halt and Station"
* Both the wiki pages Railway Stations and building=railway_station
mention to put railway=station on the building. I guess this should be
removed.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railway_stations
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dtrain_station

2016-05-20 1:14 GMT+02:00 Joachim <noreply at freedom-x.de>:
> I find the restriction of railway=station/halt to a node overly simplistic.
> This decision should not be over a "convenient meeting point" or "hand-tuned
> centroid". It should be about what's on the ground. A node is an abstraction
> of reality and I don't think we should stop here. Every station occupies
> some area and I would happily apply the rules of public_transport=station to
> railway=station: map the area which is of interest to passengers.
>
>
>
> 2016-05-19 8:40 GMT+02:00 Arun Ganesh <arun.planemad at gmail.com>:
>>
>> The one point approach works for small stations with a single entrance,
>> but is a little misleading for large station complexes with multiple entry
>> points. We have quite a few of these in India, where both sides are equally
>> important like the New Delhi station:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/28.64233/77.22188
>>
>> In such cases its fair to add the marker in the centroid of the area, and
>> not on any particular side. The station building would then help the user
>> decide which entry is most convenient.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Nounours77
>> <kuessemondtaeglich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 100% agree with Nzara.
>>> Important to have ONE point for station, and the mapper can better decide
>>> where this is then an algorithm.
>>>
>>> nounours
>>>
>>> > Am 19.05.2016 um 07:28 schrieb Nzara <nzaraosm at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Mauro,
>>> >
>>> > concerning your questions
>>> >
>>> >> Other question that came up was "why is it so important for that node
>>> >> to be unconnected with the railway track?"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >> Can someone help me to know exactly why it's better tagging a
>>> >> "railway=station" with a node only?
>>> >
>>> > I prefer the passengers view of a station or halt. If we will meet "at
>>> > the station" where are you expecting to find me? This is the position, I
>>> > usualy use for placing the railway=station node, definitly not on a track.
>>> > The track carries nodes like public_transport=stop_position. Putting
>>> > 'station' on a building or even a larger area leaves it to the renderer or
>>> > any other data consumer to guess the center of the station from passenges
>>> > view.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Nzara
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Arun Ganesh
>> @planemad
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