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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Denis, Am 19.09.2016 um 19:02 schrieb Denis Stein: > The requirements may depend also on future applications. However, > my intention is to propose a common scheme for tagging those > railway elements considering both the current practice and future > potentials of the availability of measurements with higher > accuracy. > > P1. Proposals for the position of tags for single turnouts > (abbreviation: ST; including both straight as well as curved > ones): P1(a) Tip of the switch blade (i.e., the position where the > route changes; might be also recognized by the point machine in > aerial images) P1(b) Tip of the frog ("massif" part; can be > approximated from the intersection of both inner rails) P1(c) > another proposal? In history, mappers usually mapped the point at the common crossing or a location between the point blades and the common crossing because the common crossing is better visible on aerial imagery. You have to have a little bit more understanding of railways than Joe Average-Mapper and need very good aerial imagery to spot the point machines on Bing imagery. I myself move all the points I find during mapping to the tip of the point blades because that's the location where the track centerlines split up. > P2. Proposals for the position of tags for diamond crossings > (abbreviation: DC): P2(a) Center of DC, i.e. intersection of both > track centerlines P2(b) another proposal? Diamond crossings are mapped where the track centerlines intersect. If they are mapped differently, e.g. like this \ / \ / \ / >-< / \ / \ / \ (a common piece of track, looks like two points), they have been mapped long ago when only worse Bing or Yahoo imagery was available. > P3. Proposals for tagging of complex switches: P3.1 Decompose them > whenever applicable: - diamond crossing with ... slips: * single = > 2x ST + 1x DC * double = 4x ST + 1x DC - three-way switch = 2x ST Did you mean a "Doppelweiche" (the blades of the second point are between the point blades and the common crossing of the first point)? http://www.tf-ausbildung.de/BahnInfo/dw.htm This should be mapped as two single points. > (solves also the route ambiguity problem in single slip case) P3.2 > Tag those parts according to P1 and P2. I prefer to map single and double slips like diamond crossings but with special tags. If we want to map the possible turnout directions of single slips, I would use turn restriction relations as used on roads. Routing engines have been supporting turn restrictions for many years. To reduce the number of turn restrictions which have to have mapped, I would not map a relations if it is just the opposite of another turn restriction on that point (i.e. copy of another relation but from and to members are switched). While writing a routing engine for trains becomes easier if we map single/double slips as simple points, rendering a nice map (especially track layout diagrams becomes more difficult) becomes more difficult. There are several OSM-based routing engines which already support turn restrictions but there is no software which simplifies double slip points mapped in a way you propose. (In general, cartographic generalization of geospatial data beyond a simplification of the geometry is more difficult than parsing turn restrictions) Best regards Michael - -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten ausgenommen) I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJX4UZwAAoJEB87G9rMCMyIaQoQAIqnUngLPEQJewFAuXBFESdM X94p+hJ3Xd13oI1q23rfiOcTcygC3JI04S9xQVLDMWj+UoR3Usvix4Y3xUVqaWjY I113fmTrz82Uedg1gujl+6ZopPP8sQi19boR1mS2S0tq7986XyCfe+GkEl1/7jig fgTaGe4WxHNifyptHBamj0qrrvXsTgogEiIoa8YLL6kqOywzOO9OdCvV92B4nFnL tlSplYr16gxzZWuBhRSyU4YPSfeqcfbljCg8LYzhE+pTyKM+EQOrNueqfH2hvJMP uWPAR4FaJoJQRkTiqmcq26X6iKJIENv6tMODQcndSgjOKlL9AGMQ+v2cXL56PsKS SYVYfSIUyGIk2cGYHwN5K2U4N1Ne/J5CuSaPX0n0NWax3fN+3xQcSSFKJOmEAUCN SuvaVi1TEbQm68hjzXalin12EdorTLGiCVqD1ibZ7IspgMRuzsWGRR01bDad4vZv K0LWYIQdGl8xQfEmJokgG2rU7k12W067yfNJgPP/dKkAr+2XYDjtjQdn0NtTsdfw zIgmpZyTo6evJuJXHW6uslqUGtt5tDNvcWF0HS7P4CqqXZvI/Qmbxpm1uemXyYbC quP1iBjpgO3+6cUZpeQ8Q5ZV2p3yQlqRp4txYcT/O+pTLZNE00lDZVp+Ri1IK/Ck AgG8cwKPLkGQFlRxrzsf =ZhAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----