Openrailwaymap April 2021

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Russian railway signaling in OpenRailwayMap
by Сергей Ливерко 30 Dec '21

30 Dec '21

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Feature Proposal - Voting - railway:signal:*:shape
by Rolf Eike Beer 08 May '21

08 May '21

The vote on the proposed railway:signal:*:shape (sub-)tag is now open: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/railway:signal:*:shape

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RFC - Deprecate railway=preserved (was: Discourage railway=preserved)
by Kai Michael Poppe - OSM 20 Apr '21

20 Apr '21

Good evening lists, As per rationale requests, I have changed the original proposal, discouraging the use of railway=preserved, to deprecating it. I'd like to again encourage people to weigh in their thoughts in the discussion - especially because the tag that should be the replacement is in heavy use in the community, which makes thinking of an alternative harder and can only be sensibly accomplished with the heavy users of Railway-Tagging "on board". The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Deprecate_railway%3Dp… Earliest start date for voting (which I might bump ahead however this discussion will turn out) is May 8th. Regards Kai

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - railway:signal:*:shape
by Rolf Eike Beer 17 Apr '21

17 Apr '21

> > What "classic" means would have to be determined per signal type. If it is > > unclear a better name has to be found obviously. So a "classic" H/V light > > signal would be something different then a "classic" Sr light signal. > > Is there any name in use distinguishing old H/V from currently typical H/V? > > Or is simply "classic" being used? > > It would be nice to avoid problem in say in 15 years > when traffic signal shapes will change again. > > Ending with "classic" value being used for shape not used at all anymore > and new "classic" shape being tagged somehow, but not as "classic" value > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Counterintuitive_key_names > is long enough :) Luckily it's actually no problem for those signals as no new versions of them are build anymore. New signal installations use the Ks system, and given the push to ETCS and signalling in the cab there are even tracks completely without track signals meanwhile, and expect their number to slowly increase. Back to H/V: there are (to my knowledge) actually only these 2 versions of the H/V distant signal, not counting special tunnel versions. Even those mounted at platform roofs are at all places I know actually using exactly those shapes. There are much more versions of the H/V main signals, this is an entirely different story. While "compact" will be used in that list, too, there are several older versions. Railway people, do we have or need a different name for H/V distant signal "classic" shape? Suggestions? Eike

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Tagging decision: ebicab, atc, convel, zub123
by JJJ Wegdam 10 Apr '21

10 Apr '21

This tagging discussion is relevant for PR703 so I added a copy of this email there. Dear community, EBICAB is a trademark for on-board equipment, from a specific supplier (Bombardier). The entire train protection system contains some other things [1]. The entire system is called ATC in Norway and Sweden, while Portugal calls the exact same system CONVEL. To add more confusion: Denmark calls [its own system](https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ZUB_123) ATC [2], while it is incompatible with the Norse/Swedish/Portuguese system. Also the current situation in OSM is different than you currently envision (with adding the `railway:ebicab=700` tag): in the past I already added `railway:atc=yes` tags to relevant tracks in both Portugal and Norway with the same purpose. You also envision the `railway:ebicab=900` tag (probably for Finland) while Finland uses the `railway:jkv=yes` tag with the same purpose. Denmark is a bit of a blank slate, because Denmark doesn't have train protection tags yet. OpenRailwayMap has 2 options: 1. Render compatible systems consequences: a) we proceed with this PR as is b) we have to retag Portugal, Sweden, Norway and Finland (I'm willing to help) c) we should create an additional PR to also render `railway:zub=123` d) Denmark should be tagged with `railway:zub=123` 2. Render local names consequences: a) this PR should change to `railway:convel=yes` b) we should retag portugal from `railway:ebicab=700`/`railway:atc=yes` to `railway:convel=yes` c) we need an additional PR to render `railway:atc=yes` c) Denmark should be tagged with `railway:atc=yes` I am in favor of option 1, because my opinion is that the goal of ORM signalling layer should be to show compatibility. Best regards, JJJWegdam [1] Overview of train protection systems in PT, DK, NO, SE, FI as far as I currently understand them [2] Danish border, seen from Germany. Note the start-of-ATC signs.

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RFC - Discourage railway=preserved
by Kai Michael Poppe - OSM 05 Apr '21

05 Apr '21

Hello list! I have created a new Proposal in the OSM Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Discourage_railway%3D… This is to further support your wish to use railway:preserved=yes instead of railway=preserved. I would be glad if many of you would discuss and also support the proposal, once voting has started. Thank you for your support! Kai

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