Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
thanks robert
On 22.04.2015 13:46, robert wrote:
Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
thanks robert
The meaning of railway=preserved and railway=narrow_gauge is better represented using railway:preserved=yes and gauge=.
Philipp
Am 22.04.2015 14:12, schrieb Philipp Klaus Krause:
On 22.04.2015 13:46, robert wrote:
Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
The meaning of railway=preserved and railway=narrow_gauge is better represented using railway:preserved=yes and gauge=.
Probably, but railway=narrow_gauge has 25k usages all over the world, so this will not go away anytime soon: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/railway=narrow_gauge
Eike
Am 22.04.2015 13:46, schrieb robert:
Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
It is also tagged as usage=tourism. The renderer does not highlight any tracks that have a usage other than main, branch, or industrial. That means military, tourism, and test are documented, but not rendered.
If you have a github account please file an issue so this does not get lost.
Greetings,
Eike
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. April 2015 um 14:12 Uhr Von: "Rolf Eike Beer" eike@sf-mail.de An: rsn.osm@mailbox.org, OpenRailwayMap openrailwaymap@openrailwaymap.org Betreff: Re: [openrailwaymap] Harzer Schmalspur Bahn
It is also tagged as usage=tourism. The renderer does not highlight any tracks that have a usage other than main, branch, or industrial. That means military, tourism, and test are documented, but not rendered.
If you have a github account please file an issue so this does not get lost.
I think there already is an issue dealing with this topic: https://github.com/rurseekatze/OpenRailwayMap/issues/40
Albin
Hi Robert,
On Mi, 2015-04-22 at 13:46 +0200, robert wrote:
Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
the main tracks of the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are tagged with usage=tourism (btw. usage=tourism is not 100% correct for the Harzquerbahn as this line is also used for regular public transport).
Currently the renderer does not show tracks that are tagged with usage=tourism. There is a ticket for it (https://github.com/rurseekatze/OpenRailwayMap/issues/40), but we have not found a suitable color for these lines. I think as a first step, we will render those lines in black in the next few days.
For your information: The main tracks are not rendered as crossover tracks ("Überleitgleis"), they are not rendered on the overlay. It appears that they are rendered as crossover tracks because of their rendering in the basemap . Select "No background map" in the layer selection to see this.
Regards Alex
Hi Alexander,
thanks for the in-depth explanation. Switching off the background map makes it a lot clearer. Now there are only the annotations, bridges, and some differently tagged tracks around train stations ;-)
Large parts of the network of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" seems to be tagged as "Schmalspur". Only the Brockenbahn and the tracks between Wernigerode and Elend are not "Schmalspur"
Will have a look again at the openrailwaymap in a few days to see how the tourism tracks look like.
Thanks again robert
On Wednesday 22 April 2015 22:59:31 Alexander Matheisen wrote:
Hi Robert,
On Mi, 2015-04-22 at 13:46 +0200, robert wrote:
Dear OpenRailwayMappers,
recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types.
One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke).
According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen".
the main tracks of the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are tagged with usage=tourism (btw. usage=tourism is not 100% correct for the Harzquerbahn as this line is also used for regular public transport).
Currently the renderer does not show tracks that are tagged with usage=tourism. There is a ticket for it (https://github.com/rurseekatze/OpenRailwayMap/issues/40), but we have not found a suitable color for these lines. I think as a first step, we will render those lines in black in the next few days.
For your information: The main tracks are not rendered as crossover tracks ("Überleitgleis"), they are not rendered on the overlay. It appears that they are rendered as crossover tracks because of their rendering in the basemap . Select "No background map" in the layer selection to see this.
Regards Alex
Hi Robert,
On Do, 2015-04-23 at 10:30 +0200, robert wrote:
Hi Alexander,
thanks for the in-depth explanation. Switching off the background map makes it a lot clearer. Now there are only the annotations, bridges, and some differently tagged tracks around train stations ;-)
Large parts of the network of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" seems to be tagged as "Schmalspur". Only the Brockenbahn and the tracks between Wernigerode and Elend are not "Schmalspur"
Will have a look again at the openrailwaymap in a few days to see how the tourism tracks look like.
yesterday I merged the changes, so now the narrow gauge railways tagged with usage=tourism are rendered in black.
It takes some time until all tiles are rerendered, so there may be some regions on the map where the changes are not visible yet.
Regards Alex
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