Hello to the group, If I wanted to contribute to the website map and design, how do I move forward? I had a hard time deciding from the wiki how to proceed. I did find https://github.com/OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap this by selecting the authors list and found the fork and pull methods. Shall I do such to make revision changes to the viewer?
I would like to add an additional radial for railroad operator or ownership and work through the way that looks on the site. Maybe color code owner/operators.
I am asking to see what has changed, as some things have not been updated in a few years. I don't want to step on anyone's toes as I move forward with my changes and future discussions. Eg. I want to step out on the right foot.
Best Regards, Nat P email: natfoot@gmail.com
I have no answer, but I want to say that I am glad Nat that you have stepped forward. I like your idea.
I would suggest that "operator" is important enough that it should be part of what shows on open street map. They seem to have decided otherwise, but that is in error. In the US context it is critical, and showing the line name is unimportant for the general public. I don't know if that battle is worth fighting, but improving open railway map sure is.
Christopher
On 11/24/2020 8:30 PM, Natfoot wrote:
Hello to the group, If I wanted to contribute to the website map and design, how do I move forward? I had a hard time deciding from the wiki how to proceed. I did find https://github.com/OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap https://github.com/OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap this by selecting the authors list and found the fork and pull methods. Shall I do such to make revision changes to the viewer?
I would like to add an additional radial for railroad operator or ownership and work through the way that looks on the site. Maybe color code owner/operators.
I am asking to see what has changed, as some things have not been updated in a few years. I don't want to step on anyone's toes as I move forward with my changes and future discussions. Eg. I want to step out on the right foot.
Best Regards, Nat P email: natfoot@gmail.com mailto:natfoot@gmail.com
With respect to showing the operator name instead of the line name, that's something we had extensive discussion about over the summer. We did get buy in from a wider part of the international ORM community on the fact that we need different labelling in North America. In short, the current labelling (line name, not operator) is definitely correct for Europe, where this project really began, but no one there realized at the time that we would need something different in North America.
Michael Reichert (Nakaner in the GitHub repos) indicated he thought we should be able to do this with a shared rendering, such that when the renderer was working in North America it could automatically switch to displaying the operator name instead of the line name. However, I know most of his work that I knew of since summer had been on switching us all over to a complete new (and better supported) rendering stack which looks to have been pretty involved, so a lot of our work in NA over the summer was in starting to get operator reporting marks entered in operator:short field so we'd have something legible and useful to display.
I fell off the map myself in early September, work got really busy again and I'm just now trying to get caught back up in OSM land myself.
Chuck
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 21:11 Christopher Parker conductorchris@gmail.com wrote:
I have no answer, but I want to say that I am glad Nat that you have stepped forward. I like your idea.
I would suggest that "operator" is important enough that it should be part of what shows on open street map. They seem to have decided otherwise, but that is in error. In the US context it is critical, and showing the line name is unimportant for the general public. I don't know if that battle is worth fighting, but improving open railway map sure is.
Christopher
On 11/24/2020 8:30 PM, Natfoot wrote:
Hello to the group, If I wanted to contribute to the website map and design, how do I move forward? I had a hard time deciding from the wiki how to proceed. I did find https://github.com/OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap this by selecting the authors list and found the fork and pull methods. Shall I do such to make revision changes to the viewer?
I would like to add an additional radial for railroad operator or ownership and work through the way that looks on the site. Maybe color code owner/operators.
I am asking to see what has changed, as some things have not been updated in a few years. I don't want to step on anyone's toes as I move forward with my changes and future discussions. Eg. I want to step out on the right foot.
Best Regards, Nat P email: natfoot@gmail.com
Chuck, Thanks for the update.
See if there is anything more I can do.
Would like to hit up the signals vs train protection information at some point as well. Anyway I can be productive to help with the project.
Nat P email: natfoot@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:08 AM Chuck Sanders nathhad@gmail.com wrote:
With respect to showing the operator name instead of the line name, that's something we had extensive discussion about over the summer. We did get buy in from a wider part of the international ORM community on the fact that we need different labelling in North America. In short, the current labelling (line name, not operator) is definitely correct for Europe, where this project really began, but no one there realized at the time that we would need something different in North America.
Michael Reichert (Nakaner in the GitHub repos) indicated he thought we should be able to do this with a shared rendering, such that when the renderer was working in North America it could automatically switch to displaying the operator name instead of the line name. However, I know most of his work that I knew of since summer had been on switching us all over to a complete new (and better supported) rendering stack which looks to have been pretty involved, so a lot of our work in NA over the summer was in starting to get operator reporting marks entered in operator:short field so we'd have something legible and useful to display.
I fell off the map myself in early September, work got really busy again and I'm just now trying to get caught back up in OSM land myself.
Chuck
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 21:11 Christopher Parker conductorchris@gmail.com wrote:
I have no answer, but I want to say that I am glad Nat that you have stepped forward. I like your idea.
I would suggest that "operator" is important enough that it should be part of what shows on open street map. They seem to have decided otherwise, but that is in error. In the US context it is critical, and showing the line name is unimportant for the general public. I don't know if that battle is worth fighting, but improving open railway map sure is.
Christopher
On 11/24/2020 8:30 PM, Natfoot wrote:
Hello to the group, If I wanted to contribute to the website map and design, how do I move forward? I had a hard time deciding from the wiki how to proceed. I did find https://github.com/OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap this by selecting the authors list and found the fork and pull methods. Shall I do such to make revision changes to the viewer?
I would like to add an additional radial for railroad operator or ownership and work through the way that looks on the site. Maybe color code owner/operators.
I am asking to see what has changed, as some things have not been updated in a few years. I don't want to step on anyone's toes as I move forward with my changes and future discussions. Eg. I want to step out on the right foot.
Best Regards, Nat P email: natfoot@gmail.com
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