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Re: Adding usage tag for multiple ways
by Jeroen Wegdam 22 May '20

22 May '20

Dear Peter, The issue you describe is familiar to me. The UK OSM ways contain a lot of irregular tag combinations like usage=yard and usage=cargo. The last couple of months I’ve been working on these issues (along with adding speed limits) in England, Wales and Scotland. I hope that it is already solving more and more of the problems you describe. If you want to contribute, I would recommend to install and use JOSM (https://josm.openstreetmap.de/). It allows you to download specific relations/ways/nodes from the OSM database through queries. Another possibility is to search the data you downloaded for specific properties. You can use these features to look problematic properties like “railway=rail -usage=* -service=*”. When you found the ways, you can add the appropriate tags. If you need further help on this, feel free to let me know. Best regards, Jeroen > Op 19 mei 2020 om 14:57 heeft Rolf Eike Beer <eike(a)sf-mail.de> het volgende geschreven: > > Am Dienstag, 19. Mai 2020, 12:33:38 CEST schrieb osm(a)peterrobins.co.uk: >> I've been looking at OpenRailwayMap for GB, where I live. I thought at first >> that it was missing numerous lines, but on investigating further I find >> that this is because large numbers of ways have no usage tag, and it looks >> like OpenRailwayMap only shows lines which are not tagged as 'main' or >> 'branch' when you are zoomed right in. Having to edit each way separately >> would be a large amount of work, especially as lines often consist of >> multiple ways. What's the simplest way of (a) finding which ways don't >> currently have it, and (b) adding the appropriate tag? Without it, I fear >> that OpenRailwayMap is of limited use. > > I'm not entirely sure if I understand your problem. It may be one of the > following 3 (or something entirely different of course): > > -lines with both usage as well as service are not shown: this is a tagging > mistake and we force users to correct there things with that > > -lines without usage are not shown at low zoom levels. Things without usage > are likely minor tracks, drawing them on low zoom levels would clutter the > output and slow down the renderer. If it's important, it probably _is_ a main > or branch line. > > -lines with some special usage values (like military) are permitted to also > have service tagged, but they are currently not rendered (https://github.com/ > OpenRailwayMap/OpenRailwayMap-CartoCSS/issues/7)

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Adding usage tag for multiple ways
by osm＠peterrobins.co.uk 22 May '20

22 May '20

I've been looking at OpenRailwayMap for GB, where I live. I thought at first that it was missing numerous lines, but on investigating further I find that this is because large numbers of ways have no usage tag, and it looks like OpenRailwayMap only shows lines which are not tagged as 'main' or 'branch' when you are zoomed right in. Having to edit each way separately would be a large amount of work, especially as lines often consist of multiple ways. What's the simplest way of (a) finding which ways don't currently have it, and (b) adding the appropriate tag? Without it, I fear that OpenRailwayMap is of limited use.

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Lifecycle tagging: tram or rail?
by gregretro-maps＠yahoo.com 09 May '20

09 May '20

Greetings! - new member from the US here. I'm going through and fixing abandoned and razed railways that I added in the past, making sure that the lifecycle tags "abandoned:railway" and "disused:railway" are present and accurate. One annoying issue that I can't resolve - what to tag when a route formerly featured tram AND freight operations. Does "rail" serve as the hierarchical top level, so that if the line operated as a standard rail line at any time, any other service is ignored? I'm assuming that a tag of "rail;tram" is not acceptable. Thanks! GR

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Platforms & covered=yes / Bahnsteige & covered=yes
by Jonaes02 08 May '20

08 May '20

Hello all, from time to time I stumble across railway platforms which are tagged with covered=yes. Is this tagging right, even if there is a separaly mapped roof (which does not cover the whole platform)? According to the German Wikipage ("Has this platform a roof" / The English page says "Is the platform covered?" which doesn't help me) I'd say yes, but I understand the covered-Tag different, and with this tag the platforms aren't rendered by Mapnik. Greetings, Jannis (Jonaes) ———— Hallo zusammen, ich sehe immer mal wieder Bahnsteige, die mit covered=yes getaggt sind. Ist dieses Tagging richtig, auch wenn es ein separat gemapptes Bahnsteigdach gibt, welches nicht den gesamten Bahnsteig überdeckt? Nach der Beschreibung auf der Wikiseite würde ich denken ja ("Ist der Bahnsteig überdacht"), aber ich verstehe das Konzept von covered eigentlich anders, und die Bahnsteige werden von Mapnik auch nicht gerendert. Grüße Jannis (Jonaes)

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ICE line disappeared during renovation
by Eckhard M 07 May '20

07 May '20

Hi all, I just realized that the ICE railway Mannheim-Stuttgart almost disappeared from OSM. Due to the renovation works somebody changed it to railway=construction (e.g. see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/156403088) Is it the right idea to mark railways as construction during renovation works like that? What do you think? Best, Eckhard https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EM311

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adding new tag
by Natfoot 06 May '20

06 May '20

Hello Discussion, I would like to add new tags to open railway map and osm. I am a railroader in the usa and have specific knowledge to add. Reading the documentation is my first order of business to better understand where we are with tagging. I would like to start with adding train control like etcs in Germany to the USA rail network. We of course have other train control systems that may be similar or different. I would be accepting of the input of tagging for osm and how to add information to open railway map. best regards, Nathan Proudfoot https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Natfoot email: natfoot(a)gmail.com

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Data upgrade frequency on openrailwaymap.org
by Eckhard M 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Hi, how long does it take that changes in the OSM data will be visible on the openrailwaymap.org web page? Thanks, Eckhard (EM311)

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Track bidirectional or not ?
by hanhmissi.tran＠everysens.com 27 Apr '20

27 Apr '20

Hello I have read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap/Tagging but I'm a bit confused about how to know if a track can be used in both directions. For a given way, should I rely on the value of the key oneway and on the value of the key railway:bidirectional ? And I'm confused about the description of the value "possible" for the key railway:bidirectional. Does it mean a way with that value may be bidirectional or not ? Thanks for your answers.

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No visualizations are shown
by mdeen＠xs4all.nl 20 Mar '20

20 Mar '20

When I use the openrailwaymap, none of the visualizations show up on the map. Infrastructure, Signalling, Max speeds, Electrification, I can check every one of them, but I am only seeing the B/W background map. I have this in Firefox, Pale Moon and IE. Is this something on my end or is there something wrong serverside? Regards, Maarten

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This mailing list has been migrated to Mailman 3 / Diese Mailingliste wurde auf Mailman 3 umgestellt
by Michael Reichert 12 Feb '20

12 Feb '20

*Deutsch siehe unten* Hi, the Mailman installation of lists.openrailwaymap.org has been migrated from Mailman 2 to the new Mailman 3. This was the last step of the OpenRailway server migration. As an ordinary user of emails, you can continue using the mailing list as you are used to. The email address of the mailing list is still openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org. You do *not* have to renew your subscription or create an account at https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/. If you visit the web site (archive, subscription form), everything will be new. Mailman has now proper accounts with email addresses, user names and passwords for each subscriber. Passwords are not stored in plain text any more. Your old passwords have not been migrated, they have been deleted instead. Existing subscriptions have not been converted to a new account. However, you can visit https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/accounts/signup/?next=/mailman3/h… and create a new account for the email address you are subscribed with. It is even possible to log in with your OpenStreetMap account. OSM itself does not grant us access to your email address. Therefore, Mailman will ask you for your email address. The existing subscriptions of the mailing list will be linked by email address. If you want to change your subscription settings, create an account for the address you are subscribed with. Sign-up for an account requires clicking on a confirmation link you will get by email. If you want to unsubscribe, send an empyt email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org. The new web frontend at https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/ can be used to write messages from the web browser – like a web forum. The old URLs to the archived messages still work but the old archive won't be updated any more. The new archive (it includes the old messages as well) can be found at https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@op… For research purposes, you can now download the whole archive as .mbox files. OpenRailwayMap is my first Mailman 3 migration. I plan to migrate lists.fossgis.de and lists.openstreetmap.de this year. So please do not hesitate to provide feedback. A blog entry in my OSM user diary about technical aspects of migrations like patching Mailman to meet higher standards of privacy will follow soon. There is a dedicated mailing list for tests: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/mailman3-sandbox.… Best regards Michael Hallo, die Mailman-Installation von lists.openrailwaymap.org wurde von Mailman 2 auf Mailman 3 umgestellt. Das war der letzte Schritt des OpenRailwayMap-Serverumzugs. Als normale Nutzer des Mediums E-Mail könnt ihr die Mailingliste weiterhin so nutzen, wie ihr es gewohnt seid. Die E-Mail-Adresse der Mailingliste ist weiterhin openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org. Es ist nicht erforderlich, ein Benutzerkonto auf https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/ anzulegen. Wenn ihr die Weboberfläche (Archiv, Eintragungsformular) aufruft, wird alles neu sein. Mailman hat nun eine vernünftige Benutzerkontenverwaltung mit E-Mail-Adressen, Benutzernamen und Passwörtern für jeden Abonnenten. Passwörter werden nicht mehr im Klartext gespeichert. Die alten Passwörter wurden nicht migriert, sie sind gelöscht worden. Bestehende Abonnements wurden nicht in neue Benutzerkonten umgewandelt. Wenn ihr jedoch https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/accounts/signup/?next=/mailman3/h… aufruft und könnt ihr ein neues Konto mit der E-Mail-Adresse anlegen, mit der ihr die Mailingliste abonniert habt. Es ist sogar möglich, sich mit seinem OSM-Benutzerkonto anzumelden. OSM selbst gibt keine E-Mail-Adressen heraus. Deshalb fragt Mailman euch nach einer E-Mail-Adresse. Die bestehenden Abonnements werden per E-Mail-Adresse mit neu angelegten Konten verknüpft. Wenn ihr eure Abonnements-Einstellungen ändern wollt, müsst ihr ein Benutzerkonto mit der Adresse anlegen, mit der ihr die Mailingliste abonniert habt. Das Anlegen eines neuen Kontos bedingt, dass ihr in einer E-Mail einen Bestätigungslink anklickt. Ihr könnt euch von der Mailingliste abmelden, indem ihr eine leere E-Mail an openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org sendet. Die neue Web-Oberfläche ist unter https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/ verfügbar. Man kann mit ihr sogar Nachrichten an die Mailingliste schreiben – wie in einem Forum. Die alten URLs der archivierten Nachrichten zeigen in das alte Archiv, das ebenfalls umgezogen wurde. Es wird jedoch nicht mehr fortgeführt werden. Das neue Archiv enthält alle Nachrichten – auch die alten – ist unter https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@op… verfügbar. Zu Untersuchungszwecken kann das gesamte Archiv als .mbox-Datei heruntergeladen werden. Die OpenRailwayMap ist meine erstes Mailman-3-Migrationsprojekt. Ich beabsichtige lists.fossgis.de und lists.openstreetmap.de dieses Jahr ebenfalls umzustellen. Feedback ist daher besonders willkommen. Vielleicht findet ihr noch Dinge, die ich bei meinen Tests nicht entdeckt habe. In meinem Benutzerblog wird demnächst noch ein Eintrag mit technischen Aspekten der Umstellung wie etwa dem Patchen von Mailman, um höheren Datenschutz-Ansprüchen zu genügen, erscheinen. Für Experimente gibt es eine separate Test-Liste: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/mailman3-sandbox.… Viele Grüße Michael

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