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OpenRailwayMap in OsmAnd
by Peter Reinhart 11 Jun '15

11 Jun '15

(English version below) Liebe Mitstreiter, seit 1. Juni lässt sich die OpenRailwayMap mit wenigen Schritten in OsmAnd einbinden. Damit ist es möglich, während einer Zugfahrt auf einer vorinstallierten Grundkarte Eisenbahndetails darzustellen. => http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OpenRailwayMap/API#Einbindung_in_OsmA… Viele Grüße Peter Hi, since June 1st, OsmAnd supports OpenRailwayMap right out of the box. Now you can enjoy looking on railway details displayed on top on a pre-installed detailed map. => https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap/API#Usage_in_OsmAnd Best wishes Peter -- "Every life comes with a death sentence." (Walter White)

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WMS with Dutch milestones
by Michael Reichert 31 May '15

31 May '15

Hi, it's only alpha but I present it now to you – I have set up a WMS with ProRail's milestones. That's the GetCapabilities URL: http://michreichert.de/spoorbaanhartpunten?SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetCapabilit… You have to click in JOSM on Imagery -> Imagery Preferences -> +WMS and enter to URL above. Choose image/png as image type. There are some bugs I have to fix: - change colour of labels (Which one would you prefer?) - cut of all those decimals (reason: the shapefile stored them as doubles) - choose nicer icon instead of the black circles with blue fill @Jereon: How do they look in the Netherlands? Could you provide an image (link)? The data source is http://data.openov.nl/prorail/20140116/20140116-spoorbaanhartpunt.zip. License: http://data.openov.nl/prorail/readme Other issues: - Although the dataset reaches a little bit into Germany, it is not usable there. ProRail did not transform the German milestones which have DB_Ref (a Gauß-Krüger projection with Bessel ellipsoid and ETRS89 datum). That's why the have an offset mainly in east-west direction. Please attend that this is no permission to import the milestones. The import still has to be discussed at imports list! Best regards Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten ausgenommen) I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists)

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Verbindungskurve Eutingen
by Joachim 29 May '15

29 May '15

Hallo Eisenbahnfreunde, ich habe die Namen der Nagoldtal-/Enzahl- und Gäubahn (nach Freudenstadt) getaggt und dabei ist mir aufgefallen dass die "Verbindungskurve Eutingen" Nr. 4881 wohl auf dem falschen Gleis liegt. Kann das jemand bestätigen? Hier die OSM Notiz dazu: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/370437 Grüße, Joachim

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Fwd: [DMANET] FAU Optimization Challenge
by Philipp Klaus Krause 13 May '15

13 May '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Thematisch passend zum DB Hackaton: - -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [DMANET] FAU Optimization Challenge Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 13:16:01 +0200 From: Andreas Bärmann <Andreas.Baermann(a)math.uni-erlangen.de> To: dmanet(a)zpr.uni-koeln.de Dear Optimization Community, The University of Erlangen (FAU), Germany, is organizing an optimization challenge focussed on optimal train timetables. The task is to come up with models and algorithms to compute timetables that are minimal with respect to the resulting energy cost by the operation of the trains. All researchers (from students up to professors) may participate in teams between two and five people. The only condition is that at least one team member is non-German or is affiliated to a non-German university. Teams affiliated to the University of Erlangen may take part out of competition. We especially encourage young scientists to take part. So feel free to pass this email to your students. The team with the best solutions to the challenge instances will be invited to Erlangen for one week this October, all expenses covered. During this time, the winners have the opportunity to visit our research group on discrete optimization, discuss their solutions with us, explore possibilities for future collaboration or career development, get to know the cultural and culinary highlights of Germany in general and Bavaria in particular, and finally present their work at the popular science fair "Long Night of Science". More information can be found here: https://openresearchchallenge.org/ Note that the FAU Open Research Challenge comprises three seperate challenges, whose topics are digital forensics, discrete optimization, and photonic technologies. The homepage of our optimization challenge is here: https://openresearchchallenge.org/discreteOptimization/ChairofEconomics The challenge is already online and closes by the end of July. We look forward to your participation and will be happy to greet the winners here in Erlangen! Prof. Dr. Alexander Martin and Dipl-Math. Andreas Bärmann Chair of Economics, Discrete Optimization, and Mathematics FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany PS: You can ask your questions concerning the rules of the competition and the functioning of the challenge website here: openresearchchallenge[at]fau.de For questions concerning the formation of teams and the optimization task itself, you can use the challenge forum on the website (preferred) or directly send them to: Andreas.Baermann[at]math.uni-erlangen.de - -- Andreas Bärmann Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Department Mathematik Lehrstuhl für Wirtschaftsmathematik Cauerstraße 11 91058 Erlangen E-Mail: Andreas.Baermann[at]math.uni-erlangen.de Tel.: +49 (9131) 85-67159 ********************************************************** * * Contributions to be spread via DMANET are submitted to * * DMANET(a)zpr.uni-koeln.de * * Replies to a message carried on DMANET should NOT be * addressed to DMANET but to the original sender. The * original sender, however, is invited to prepare an * update of the replies received and to communicate it * via DMANET. * * DISCRETE MATHEMATICS AND ALGORITHMS NETWORK (DMANET) * http://www.zaik.uni-koeln.de/AFS/publications/dmanet/ * ********************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVU5flAAoJELoBCW3khqivcQoP/Ai9YuR9Dq7B1bfzPPxwbg3x kz7NjW/trrMzkKhcrGRmBjSQnocymbgHApvENvdagWbWyGGXfGzIpbucshm9BpMI V9Loj6TI1LlANl2G2jz/02ClNloHgcHWDpxykYJpTPbJ6k0NRV3H7el7d7VLVlrj qpUyfY4lhZClC8WYmv6zdszP8mdrrcZm5qBwm6YIpOlJyLx1dGdLcKW/XJgY/OI2 WJQHY5TAs05cMbOtpX8w7frn6nYsCynfFVkHkSgLcI87bXOD1WtcAPpfjjPJd+2n wjy55XiJyqCkU9QcovszOSQbCe39HTbxkjghdK9QtrvIadc2STlgTxgsaPTPfTeY U5b1gHt/AfnnG0pCKQZdBx8huXTANUlEaSSKCSxbfvu0nbIpxSrg6crOsuKKDu/h h88MsRQwdxEZ2FNNdAa+X+cm37ikvg9pVi+senoLTTh+GCQkDoO/GiaX9xhTmsWM rvC2A2Z+c8MWiyrym/+HIsCBgAb80f0lLfxef1bdhugHIxlkWWURzIH9h36Lmx68 A7oS1k2MdseY4p/yAjdfEY4b7ZQV+xQDiOcx1MH1tN0dEFmyM+ypBUgyv6qiIS9/ NE9ws5X3Iswj0J5UQqEv3/2mffYl3i3JLrfNsGdBlGUQlF1ljwAdLE/QvrNwPK9I Y+5t1zrebq4HHAbEQ6Ny =x3fW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Harzer Schmalspur Bahn
by robert 13 May '15

13 May '15

Dear OpenRailwayMappers, recently I had a look at the marvellous openrailwaymap. I am astonished by the many different classes for railway lines. Although commuting everyday by train, I never imagined so many different track types. One thing confused me, maybe you can enlighten me. Why is the 9701 "Brockenbahn" running to the top of the highest peak in the Harz mountains neither "Schmalspur" nor "Museumsbahn" but a "Überleitgleis". Even more confusing, at some stations the parallel tracks are tagged as "Schmalspurbahn" (e.g. Schierke). According to the website of the "Harzer Schmalspur Bahnen" http://www.hsb-wr.de/mehr-erfahren/streckennetz/interaktives-streckennetz/ the "Brockenbahn" and the "Harzquerbahn" are claimed to be "Schmalspurbahnen". thanks robert

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ProRail import - slice 2
by JJJ Wegdam 10 May '15

10 May '15

Dear contributors, while the WMS of the milestones (slice 1) ought to be being developed, I decided to introduce you guys to slice 2. The proposal that I'm about to present is about the Dutch equivalent of Betriebsstelle: dienstregelingspunten. Freely translated, this means timetable-nodes. The English equivalent is the collection of yards, junctions, sidings and moveable bridges (note that yards and sidings are distinguished in the Dutch definition). The (open) data which I have available offers us X and Y coordinates (Dutch RD system), names and abbreviations. My proposal is to make a .shp file out of this (with coordinate conversion) using QGIS, import that into JOSM and upload it directly on to the OSM server. And of course, let's not get ahead of ourselves: I'll make sure to follow the proper procedures, like I described them many times: Check for existing data using overpass turbo Treat existing data with care (manually) Write a proposal to the imports mailing list in accordance with the import guidelines Thank you in advance for your feedback and have a nice continuation of your weekends. Kind regards, Jeroen

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Hacken für die Katz ? unsere Meinung zum #dbhackathon
by Alexander Matheisen 07 May '15

07 May '15

Hallo zusammen, am 20. und 21. März fand in Frankfurt der erste Hackathon unter dem Namen "DB Open Data-Train Challenge" [1] statt, am 8. und 9. Mai soll in Berlin mit der DB Infrastructure Challenge [2] der zweite Hackathon, diesmal mit dem Fokus auf Infrastruktur stattfinden. Wer an diesen Veranstaltungen teilnimmt, bekommt einen kleinen Datensatz (historische Daten) zur Verfügung gestellt, die Formatdokumentation gibt es schon ein paar Tage vorher [3]. Soweit nicht ungewöhnlich, interessant wird es allerdings bei den Teilnahmebedingungen [4]: Teilnehmer des Hackathons dürfen die Daten nach der Veranstaltung nicht weiterverwenden, sprich er oder sie hackt für die Katz. Da die Anwendungen meist auf den Datensatz zugeschnitten sind, sind sie nach dem Hackathon somit weitgehend nutzlos. Am Ende der Veranstaltung werden die Projekte der Teilnehmer prämiert, der Erstplatzierte bekommt einen Preis, der erste und zweite Verlierer einen Trostpreis. Ruhm und Ansehen sind somit das Einzige, was den Teilnehmern nach der Veranstaltung bleibt. Bereits auf der Veranstaltungswebsite ist ersichtlich, wozu die Veranstaltung dient [5]. Die Teilnehmer sollen Software entwickeln, um das Auftreten von Gleislagefehler vorhersagen. Während beim ersten Hackathon Tools für Fahrplansoll- und -echtzeitdaten entwickelt wurden, ist die Zielgruppe von Gleislagefehler-Analysetools deutlich geringer. Statt interessanter Daten werden für die aktuelle Veranstaltung also nur unkritische Datensätze bereitgestellt, mit denen außer Gleisbauern kaum jemand etwas anfangen kann. Wer bei diesem Hackathon mitmacht, hackt nicht für sich und die Allgemeinheit (worum es bei Open-Data gehen sollte), sondern für ein Unternehmen, das bei dieser Veranstaltung Code und Ideen abgreifen möchte. Dies sollte den Teilnehmern bewusst sein. Auf der anderen Seite verfügt die DB über viele für die Öffentlichkeit interessante Daten, die ohne Probleme als "richtiges" Open-Data freigegeben werden könnten. Beispiele dafür sind das Betriebsstellenverzeichnis [6] und das Infrastrukturregister. Die Daten sind bereits jetzt öffentlich sichtbar, die Webseite [7] bietet die entsprechenden Daten an. Man bekommt den Eindruck, dass die DB den Begriff Open-Data lediglich als Marketingbuzzword verwendet, um sich modern und dynamisch zu präsentieren. Auf diese Weise möchte man sich ein wenig das Image eines Startups verpassen, in der Hoffnung, damit entsprechende innovative Entwickler anzulocken. Fazit: Nicht überall da, wo Open-Data draufsteht, ist auch Open-Data drin. Das vorliegende Beispiel zeigt, dass man vor der Teilnahme genauer hinsehen sollte, welchen Bedingungen man sich unterwirft. Weder sind die Daten frei, noch dürfen sie unbeschränkt verbreitet werden. Bloß der Nutzungszweck während des Hackathons ist nicht beschränkt. Wer sich nicht in eine gewisse Abhängigkeit von Unternehmen begeben möchte, für den sind Projekte wie OpenStreetMap weiterhin die erste Wahl. Bei solchen nachhaltigen Quellen können Entwickler wirklich sichergehen, dass eine Anwendung auch noch nach dem Hackathon nutzbar bleibt. Und vor allem, dass die Arbeit nicht umsonst war, denn dafür ist die investierte Zeit einfach zu schade. Gruß Alex [1] http://www.heise.de/developer/meldung/Hackathon-der-Deutschen-Bahn-in-Frank… [2] http://www1.deutschebahn.com/dbhackathon-en/hackathon/dbhackathon1.html [3] http://www1.deutschebahn.com/dbhackathon-en/hackathon/dbhackathon3.html [4] http://www1.deutschebahn.com/file/dbhackathon-en/9225054/cH6sfk0BoKMh-j2bcR… [5] http://www1.deutschebahn.com/dbhackathon-en/hackathon/dbhackathon2.html [6] https://fahrweg.dbnetze.com/file/fahrweg-de/2394144/vHBDX5OndmGwv-JTA9EzuNA… [7] http://stredax.dbnetze.com/ISRViewer/public_html_de/svg/index.html

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Tagging triple station track layouts
by JJJ Wegdam 04 May '15

04 May '15

Dear contributors, between two platforms, there can be two tracks to serve both platforms, but there can also be more tracks. In the Netherlands, these so called triple station track layouts are mostly found at larger stations (4 or more platform tracks). These third tracks serve two main uses, as described in the attached image. The tracks can be used for through trains (mostly freight), or can be used to divide platforms, or both. Platform divisions are used on Dutch stations that are reaching their capacity. Adding a crossover in the middle of a platform allows two trains using the same platform simultanuously (which doubles the stations capacity for trains up to a certain length). In the example we see a red and green train route using the same platform and a blue train route using a platform on its own (which could be because of the train length). Such track use can of course also happen at the outer platform tracks. The question is how to tag such a third track. In the situation without middle crossover, usage=industrial could apply. But we should keep in mind that these tracks are also used to shunt empty passenger trains (usage=yard). In the situation with middle crossover, usage=main, usage=branch, service=crossover, service=yard and service=siding could be used. Please share your thoughts. Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Jeroen

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Crossover tagging
by JJJ Wegdam 04 May '15

04 May '15

Good afternoon guys, yesterday I encountered a minor tagging problem. It is about a siding or yard track becoming part of the main network, using a crossover. The situation is sketched at http://puu.sh/hB2j5/44aceed8c0.png. Currently the tagging system demands us to tag according to [2]. This however looks like the main track on the left suddenly stops/starts. Perhaps tagging this single crossover as main [1], or allowing the tagging of both crossover and main [3] would be more elegant. Allowing [3] would also come in handy at tagging inbound and outbound station tracks; there it is very hard to distinguish main tracks from crossovers. Example: http://www.openrailwaymap.org/?lang=nl&lat=52.09244570234097&lon=5.10798543… Kind regards, Jeroen

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Mapping/importing milestones
by JJJ Wegdam 28 Apr '15

28 Apr '15

Dear ORM community, the Dutch rail infrastructure provider ProRail has a lot of data available in the public domain, which makes the Dutch situation quite different than the German one (I heard DB-netz is not very willing to share data). To make use of the data I'm working on quite a large import proposal: named the ProRail import. As described at the wiki-link, it will be done in several slices: one per object category (e.g. platforms, signals, turnouts). I will inform this mailing list about each slice, before proposing it to the imports mailing list. The first slice is on milestones. The milestone import already has it's own wiki section within the ProRail import wiki. You can read all import details there. The tagging, however, is very important to ORM. This because the milestone placement in the ProRail database is quite in another way than is described in the ORM tagging scheme. Quote: ''They should be entered as nodes on the tracks themselves. If the railway line has more than one track, it should be entered on each track.'' I personally object to such an approach, because it neither encompasses the theoretical nor practical situation. The theoretical situation is placement of milestones directly on the reference ribbon, along the centre of a railway line. The practical situation, however, is placement of signs perpendicular from the reference ribbon (note that this can create other signs intervals than described on the signs). Railway companies mostly use the reference ribbons in their maps and systems, because those values are more precise. I would propose to make mapping of the theoretical and practical locations of milestones possible, by allowing these systems on the wiki. Importing the Dutch milestones automatically would be impossible without such permission. Your thoughts on the milestone import and milestone locations are highly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Jeroen

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