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"Museumsbahn" / Preserved Track

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Eckhard M

Friday, 21 June 2024 Fri, 21 Jun '24

9:32 a.m.

Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track ( "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in OpenRailwayMap? For instance https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 is not shown in ORM and I wonder why. Best, Eckhard

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Eckhard M

Wednesday, 21 August Wed, 21 Aug

1:34 p.m.

Dear all, I do come back to the rendering of preserved tracks and tracks with tourism usage. Both are currently not rendered in OpenRailwayMap. I do not really understand that razed and abandoned tracks will be shown (that no more exist in reality) but preserved and touristical used tracks are missing (that are still in use). I would very appreciate if these tracks would be shown in OpenRailwayMap and offer my help to implement this. Best regards, Eckhard (EM311) Am Fr., 21. Juni 2024 um 14:50 Uhr schrieb Eckhard M <ecki12345(a)gmail.com>:

Rendering of preserved tracks isn't implemented, even though it's > mentioned in the legend. > Thanks for the clarification, Bernhard! @Kai, I completely agree with not tagging for the renderer. Best regards, Eckhard (OSM: EM311) > > Am Fr., 21. Juni 2024 um 13:40 Uhr schrieb Bernhard Kölbl < besentv(a)gmail.com>: > Rendering of preserved tracks isn't implemented, even though it's > mentioned in the legend. > > Le ven. 21 juin 2024, 09:38, Eckhard M <ecki12345(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > >> Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track ( >> "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in >> OpenRailwayMap? For instance https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 >> is not shown in ORM and I wonder why. >> >> Best, Eckhard >> Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org >> Archived version of this message: >> https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... >> Archive of this list: >> https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > > Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org > To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org > Archived version of this message: > https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > Archive of this list: > https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@...

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Eckhard M

Friday, 21 June Fri, 21 Jun

2:50 p.m.

Rendering of preserved tracks isn't implemented, even though it's mentioned in the legend.

Thanks for the clarification, Bernhard! @Kai, I completely agree with not tagging for the renderer. Best regards, Eckhard (OSM: EM311)

Am Fr., 21. Juni 2024 um 13:40 Uhr schrieb Bernhard Kölbl <besentv(a)gmail.com

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Rendering of preserved tracks isn't implemented, even though it's mentioned in the legend. Le ven. 21 juin 2024, 09:38, Eckhard M <ecki12345(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track ( > "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in > OpenRailwayMap? For instance https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 > is not shown in ORM and I wonder why. > > Best, Eckhard > Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org > To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org > Archived version of this message: > https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > Archive of this list: > https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@...

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Bernhard Kölbl

1:39 p.m.

Rendering of preserved tracks isn't implemented, even though it's mentioned in the legend. Le ven. 21 juin 2024, 09:38, Eckhard M <ecki12345(a)gmail.com> a écrit :

Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track ( "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in OpenRailwayMap? For instance https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 is not shown in ORM and I wonder why. Best, Eckhard Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@...

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Kai Michael Poppe

12:43 p.m.

Hi Eckhard, please do no remove any of the tags, if there isn't a valid reason. When something is tagged with railway=rail, it means that these are tracks are full size (normal gauge for the country) and carry passenger or freight. Removing the railway=rail would be considered "tagging for the renderer", which is not a good practise. The rail is correctly tagged, when it's normal gauge and when there's a reason for the "railway:preserved=yes", it being a historically preserved railway. If it's not normal gauge but something else, please check the wiki [1] for possible values. The preserved information is currently NOT supposed to be rendered differently, but provide additional information about that bit of track. Kai [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:railway On 21.06.2024 12:36, Eckhard M wrote:

Hi Kai, does it mean that I have to delete the railway=rail tag? I fear that will let the track disappear in Openstreetmap? JOSM raises several warnings: image.png Am Fr., 21. Juni 2024 um 12:31 Uhr schrieb Kai Michael Poppe <osm(a)poppe.dev>: Hello Eckhard, the way you linked is railway:preserved=yes, but also railway=rail. The railway=-tagging always takes precedence over rendering as preserved. Kai On 21.06.2024 09:32, Eckhard M wrote: > Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track > ( "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in > OpenRailwayMap? For instance > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 is not shown in ORM and I > wonder why. > > Best, Eckhard > > Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org > To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org > Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Openrailwaymap mailing list --openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org To unsubscribe send an email toopenrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org Archived version of this message:https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrai... Archive of this list:https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwa...

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Eckhard M

12:36 p.m.

Hi Kai, does it mean that I have to delete the railway=rail tag? I fear that will let the track disappear in Openstreetmap? JOSM raises several warnings: [image: image.png] Am Fr., 21. Juni 2024 um 12:31 Uhr schrieb Kai Michael Poppe <osm(a)poppe.dev

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Hello Eckhard, the way you linked is railway:preserved=yes, but also railway=rail. The railway=-tagging always takes precedence over rendering as preserved. Kai On 21.06.2024 09:32, Eckhard M wrote: > Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track > ( "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in > OpenRailwayMap? For instance > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 is not shown in ORM and I > wonder why. > > Best, Eckhard > > Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org > To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org > Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@...

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Kai Michael Poppe

12:21 p.m.

Hello Eckhard, the way you linked is railway:preserved=yes, but also railway=rail. The railway=-tagging always takes precedence over rendering as preserved. Kai On 21.06.2024 09:32, Eckhard M wrote: > Hi all, which tags are needed to render a railway as a preserved track > ( "Museumsbahn") ? Or what is the best way to show a draisine track in > OpenRailwayMap? For instance > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33651730 is not shown in ORM and I > wonder why. > > Best, Eckhard > > Openrailwaymap mailing list -- openrailwaymap(a)openrailwaymap.org > To unsubscribe send an email to openrailwaymap-leave(a)openrailwaymap.org > Archived version of this message: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@... > Archive of this list: https://lists.openrailwaymap.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/openrailwaymap@...

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